Kingdom Hearts 3

[Dark Axel]

Originally Posted by Darksidehearts

*Riku in KHI felt that they were destined to see other worlds out there aside from the islands, however I think the name indicates something more than his idea.

You know what, you just jogged my memory. Remember in KH1, when sora is having a flash back when he and Riku where little, and they found that door? Remember how, when Sora left, Riku saw the keyhole? Maybe THAT started the whole thing, maybe that's what lead to that video and yeah. Man, I'm just confusing myself >.>
Hope you guys can figure something better than me. Cheers!

[Darksidehearts]

Well that I do tend to believe that, I mean think about it for a second. How is it that Sora had darkness in his heart, I mean sure we all do but I doubt that they all have some creature like Darkside inside them. Darkside was Sora's inner darkness from KHI, also I doubt that it's a coincidence that Roxas would have a similar creature in his inner world as well.

However since we haven't seen Riku's inner world or anyone else's for that matter I'm not sure we can actually make this proper assumption of the inner darkness formation. I know many people think that the inner world is a Hearless or Nobody world due to the fact there are heartless and nobodies in their, but remember that everyone has darkness in them and so the Shadows and other small heartless should be their as well. Perhaps this is how the Heartless for is determined when one becomes a heartless.

My theory is that depending on your connection to your inner world, meaning how well you are able to navigate through it and how well you can survive it. Chances are if your lucky you'll get a chance to face your true darkness inside. In Sora's case it would be Darkside. Not that Sora will become Darkside, instead gain the abilities of him. Anti Form is proof enough of that. Sora became a Shadow because there wasn't a more powerful presense there, Sora defeated Darkside and therefore all that was left is Shadows. I asume if you have not been able to defeat the true darkness or have been defeated by it then chances are you will become a lesser heartless. Keep in mind that even if you become overrun by darkness in the inner world you will not die, and when you awaken you will still remain as you are, the only thing is that you are now pathed to be a heartless in whatever form defeated you or overran you. If you end up getting overwhelmed in a attack or have your heart removed chances are you'll end up in the form that defeated you. This is because as the creature defeated you it took over your heart and therefore makes you kinda like a living heartless shell.

....lol almost forgot my point here

In CODED that Sora is only a digital copy, in fact that world entirely is digital not the real KH world, that also means the people in it aren't real. However the thing about someone finding a Keyblade to wake up Sora, I haven't heard of that one yet. I'll look into it though.

[KeyMemory]

*looks around* kinda dusty in here. no ones been around.

so. any news on kingdom hearts 3? like release dates, game coverage, some story line information or anything?

what i really want to know, is if you will get riku and the king in your party. not just have them go off some where doing there own thing, then show up in the end. and what about kairi? i really hope she get control of her keyblade and is able to fight. I have ALWAYS wanted a party of Sora, Riku, and Kairi. the dream team, the three amigos. the three original kids from destiny islands.

also, what about game play? is it going to be the same as the original kingdom hearts battle style? or like will you be able to press certain button combinations to perform a special move!

tell me your hopes and dreams of what the next kingdom hearts game is!

[Darksidehearts]

Well right now it's in a bit of a slum due to the fact news on the KH front is a little slow in going. Not much info has been released for any of the 3 games coming out soon. In fact I tend to wonder when they will be ready for releasement. To me it look like they are still working on them.

Well anway I tend to feel that KHIII will focus more on a second coming of the war, as it spreads out into the KH world the knights will be re-born in the struggle Sora or Roxas may vanish because of the fact one of the Knights was Roxas's form or perhaps even Roxas himself, as the final mix entry goes when he get's his name Xemnas tells him that "Your a new you"...so perhaps he is Ven or Aqua (Again can't remember which one) but can't remember so he got the name Roxas for now.

Anywho why focus around Roxas so much? I keep going back to that point where Namine keeps saying that Roxas was not meant to exsist, why? That was never mentioned about any of the other Nobodies, nor Namine herself, so why is Roxas one that was not to be born furthermore why is Roxas Sora's nobody? I mean if Ven or Aqua was Roxas in a former life, how did he end up in Sora?

Also I noticed this the other day and thought it was somewhat interesting. -see attachment-
Isn't a little odd how they kinda look the same a bit, even the detail. Keep in the mind that Riku's Way to Dawn Keyblade was present on the US secret vid....now let's think for a moment, Riku starts out with the Soul Eater and then has it converterted to a Keyblade, and if this new story is in the past and was a Keyblade before...then what happened to it? Is it possble for a Keyblade to become just a sword? Yes my theory states that without a Trinity Chain the Keyblade is no more than a mear sword...however I tend to think Riku's blade has a bit of a different story behind it, what if the Way to Dawn was not one weapon, but 2 perhaps this one that the apprentice has is the second part, or perhaps the reason why Way to Dawn lost it's chain in the first place?

Originally Posted by Dark Axel

You know what, you just jogged my memory. Remember in KH1, when sora is having a flash back when he and Riku where little, and they found that door? Remember how, when Sora left, Riku saw the keyhole? Maybe THAT started the whole thing, maybe that's what lead to that video and yeah. Man, I'm just confusing myself >.>
Hope you guys can figure something better than me. Cheers!

Hmmm I tend to wonder if Sora could have seen the Keyhole at all, I still believe that Sora may not have really been the one to be the Keyblade Master, perhaps because of having Roxas in him or at that time his presence in him, the Keyblade got confused. However I do think that Riku may be either related to one of the knights or like he said in Hallow Bastion, he was originally meant to weild the Keyblade. Giving in to darkness and Roxas being in Sora may have made the whole errored situation of the true owner in the first place. However I will take your info into heavy thought, Perhaps him seeing the keyhole was what started this whole thing. Well at least for the Sora Ark of the story, obviously not the Ansem/Kinghts Ark.

I am quite intrigued with the Way to Day Keyblade recently, I really do wonder what it's true origins are. Quite facinating isn't it?

[KeyMemory]

Wow, ur right. It makes sense how the keybalde choosing someone could have gotten confused with roxas being inside sora and how he said is Hollow ba. that he was the original keyblade wielder(riku said that)

so im thinking. in the video with the kinghts(10 years ago) the old bald guy brought out kingdom hearts.(if thats what it is) what if seomthing happened when it came out? like, what if he did something and the trinity chains on the three keyblades in the middle disappeared or lost. and 10 years later they were recovered and and put back? so while riku was fighting with souleater(one without chain) in the darkness realm, he found the keychain to it and it morphed back to what it looks like now.

idk, just throwing my bit out there and if it made any sense. but tell me what you think.

also, are there multiple trinity chains? like...when you go to a world and you complete it you get a keyblade. do you get a KEYBLADE or do you get a trinity chain that morphs the kingdom key into something else?

[Tilted92]

I liked the other Kingdom Hearts games. It would be nice to see what kind of spin PS3 power could put on the game. Would be kinda nice if they would incorporate SixAxis in some way.

[Darksidehearts]

Originally Posted by KeyMemory

Wow, ur right. It makes sense how the keybalde choosing someone could have gotten confused with roxas being inside sora and how he said is Hollow ba. that he was the original keyblade wielder(riku said that)

so im thinking. in the video with the kinghts(10 years ago) the old bald guy brought out kingdom hearts.(if thats what it is) what if seomthing happened when it came out? like, what if he did something and the trinity chains on the three keyblades in the middle disappeared or lost. and 10 years later they were recovered and and put back? so while riku was fighting with souleater(one without chain) in the darkness realm, he found the keychain to it and it morphed back to what it looks like now.

idk, just throwing my bit out there and if it made any sense. but tell me what you think.

also, are there multiple trinity chains? like...when you go to a world and you complete it you get a keyblade. do you get a KEYBLADE or do you get a trinity chain that morphs the kingdom key into something else?

Well at first I though that was the case, that the chain makes the keyblade. You take off the Kingdom Key chain and then put something else on to get another keyblade. However I have shut the door on that theory due to a few facts: Dual Weilding, how can you use more than one Keyblade if in fact there is only one, I suppose you could root back to the Original Keyblades (Kingdom Key, Way To Dawn and the Master's Key) in saying that you take the chains off them to gain acces to others, but if that were the case then Mickey and Riku wouldn't have their Keyblades on them when you drive in battle.

Second off there are many cases where you see players holding Keyblades while the original Keyblades are present. The best example would be Mickey's Stargazer Keyblade. As we all know he did not get the Master's Key until he went behind the door Of Kingdom Hearts. The Keyblades you receive are in fact individual Keyblades, however in the games it isn't practicle that you can hold more than 2...you know unless you gain more arms or something. The main reason Sora may have needed to use Drive forms is due to the fact the part of him that can handle more than 1 Keyblade is missing AKA Roxas. I feel in later games Sora will be able to use 2 Keyblades without drive forms. Such the example at the end of the fight with Xemnas, he was able to use Riku's Keyblade as well as his own to finish him off because Roxas returned to him. Perhaps the main exception to this is Roxas's Keyblades they in fact are real keyblades however they are not the real Oathkeeper and Oblivian, in fact they are brand new Keyblades entirely. Roxas's
Keyblades are the the "Blades of Judgement"

That could be what happened because I'm thinking about it, since the orignal Keyblades are there in the battlefield, this means the Master's Keyblade is there as well. So how did it wind up behind the door of Kingdom Hearts? Unless something happened when Kingdomhearts was made, perhaps somewhere is a world with all the Keyblades floating around in it. Otherwise Mickey would have just gotten a hold of the Master's Keyblade ahead of time. Not to mention we don't have a clue what happened after Mickey showed up to fight, so I suppose we just have to wait and find out.

As for Riku finding his chain, well like I stated in the response above it's possible because we don't really know what happened after Kingdomhearts was created, perhaps the 3 orignal keyblades were thrusted into different worlds at the time. So it is possible that withing the time there that the Way to Dawn's Trinity Chain could have come off it, and was looming around the world of the dark. Again we will have to wait a bit more until we can fully figure it out.

Originally Posted by Tilted92

I liked the other Kingdom Hearts games. It would be nice to see what kind of spin PS3 power could put on the game. Would be kinda nice if they would incorporate SixAxis in some way.

Oh I'm sure they will if it comes out for the PS3, chances are though that they may make work for the Gummy Ship battles* I'm not to sure moving the character around comfortably would be possible.


*Trust me they will have them....they always do....

[KeyMemory]

oh....well i suppose that makes sense with the dual wield. iv been wondering, at the end of kingdom hearts 1, does any one remember what sora read in that room. um, like he would go through all the glowing lights to fight different bosses, but one of them brought him to a hallway with a room to the..left i think and it had like a little pedestal with words on it. if you dont know what i am talking about, nvm.

so. the part about sora being able to use two keyblades at the end because roxas was within him again. and the drive forms where a way to bring out that power?

that brings up another thing. roxas was able to use two keyblades. what if the next game (385/1 days) tells us the back story of roxas but also how he was able to wield two keyblades.
and is it just sora being able to use two keyblades, or can riku and the king have two too?

[thedeathscythe]

I really like the story of kingdom hearts, I really hate the disney though... ;_; I liked the combat too, but once goofy and donald joined my party, I started disliking it. its a good game and I really think the story is cool, my one main beef is the disney. and many people tell me on a daily basis "just forget that theyre disney and youre fine" but I just cant...=P

[KeyMemory]

thats the main problem for most of us. in the next game, we want there to be less disney and to be a lil more serious. like at the end of KH2 with the world that never was.this is turning into a real light verses darkness battle, and it needs to show it