Kingdom Hearts 3

[Dark Axel]

Originally Posted by KeyMemory

thats the main problem for most of us. in the next game, we want there to be less disney and to be a lil more serious. like at the end of KH2 with the world that never was.this is turning into a real light verses darkness battle, and it needs to show it

Well, my friend told me that the PSP one won't have any disney characters...truth to this?

[Darksidehearts]

Well true we want less disney however we need to remember that Disney and Squenix were joined together to make this game, and so that means Disney has an voice in this meaning if they want more characters then they get more characters. If Disney were out of the pictures Squenix couldn't use any of their Disney characters due to copyright issues. Personally I would like the Disney Characters to be limited to Mickey, Donald and Goofy but no one else. (Minne, Daisy, Jimminy, Pluto and anyone else in the castle can stay considering you don't seem much of them at all, so it'a like they aren't there.)

As far as the PSP game I believe that it's a false fact, Mickey is in the game so no doubt others will be in there as well. Same goes with 365 days. Of course CODED will as well. Keymemory what I was saying was that Sora in KHII could not handle more than 1 Keyblade because Roxas was not in him, and so to compinsate for not having Roxas he needed Drive forms. I believe that after Roxas returned to him Sora was able to use 2, which is evident in the final battle.

Riku should be able to use 2 considering he doesn't have a Roxas equivilent, meaning there is nothing holding him back from using 2, I belive the only reason he may not be able to is due to the fact he fights with Darkness, and so normal Keyblades may reject him. However the Way to Dawn may be the exception, then again we need to know the real back story of this Keyblade.

[KeyMemory]

...what are you talking about lol?
roxas returned to sora at the begging of the game...or do you mean, that sora had to realize that roxas was his nobody and was within him to get the power of wielding two keyblades?

*My littel bit for KH3* I want and dont want the gummi ships in the next kingdom hearts. but seeing as that is the main transportation to other worlds i shouldnt get my hopes up to high.

...GOD! i really want to know what the next game is about. all we have seen is something that was BEFORE everything. it tells us little about what the next game will be about. and i want to know riku's side of the story. what all happened to him in the darkness realm and how he got the way to dawn, how he found out about roxas, where the crap every one got a black hooded costume the orginization 13 members had. also, what happened to malificent and pete? and the castle? how did 'the world that never was' come into being. plus a lot more questions...


so, how is everyone today? the snow where i live is 18 inches. its fun to play outside lol

[thedeathscythe]

Ill prolly play the 3rd if there is barely any disney characters. I saw a trailer and it looked epic. and i didnt see too much, if any, disney in it (I was playing psp while we watched). and Id love it if there were no disney chars in the psp one, maybe, if any, mickey, but he's like a party member and I can sub him out. Ill prolly get my friend to explain the storyline for the first two, but I doubt Id play them before 3. they just seem unplayable-ish because Im like allergic to disney...lololol.

[Darksidehearts]

Originally Posted by KeyMemory

...what are you talking about lol?
roxas returned to sora at the begging of the game...or do you mean, that sora had to realize that roxas was his nobody and was within him to get the power of wielding two keyblades?

*My littel bit for KH3* I want and dont want the gummi ships in the next kingdom hearts. but seeing as that is the main transportation to other worlds i shouldnt get my hopes up to high.

...GOD! i really want to know what the next game is about. all we have seen is something that was BEFORE everything. it tells us little about what the next game will be about. and i want to know riku's side of the story. what all happened to him in the darkness realm and how he got the way to dawn, how he found out about roxas, where the crap every one got a black hooded costume the orginization 13 members had. also, what happened to malificent and pete? and the castle? how did 'the world that never was' come into being. plus a lot more questions...


so, how is everyone today? the snow where i live is 18 inches. its fun to play outside lol

No Roxas didn't return to Sora in the beginning he walked away, which is why you fight him in The World That Never Was. After that battle Roxas returned to Sora in a realization that he was the other part of Sora, you see Roxas thought he was only himself he never realized he was part of Sora and so he stayed as a seperate entity until they confronted each other. In reality Sora never defeated Roxas, Roxas just chose to return to Sora. Thus making Sora a complete being again as if he had no seperation. Many people get confused by that, no big deal.

I also think that we may not see the anti form again due to the fact that Sora is complete, so he no longer can fall to the darkness within him anymore. However that's a theory of mine, but I dunno. I might be basing that off the fact that Roxas is the other power of light within Sora. However I'd love anti form again in the next installment.

[KeyMemory]

oh...so thats when they joined back together..lol okay. thanks.

i would aslo like to see the anti-form of sora in the next game.

sorry, cant post more, gtg and sorry for small post. wont happen again

[KeyMemory]

Soooo.... whats up everybody? Havnt been here in a while.. has there been any news on the new games coming out or KH3?

Question: I think we have made this point with the Third Kingdom Hearts game, but, isnt it inevitable for there to be disney characters in KH3? since that is the main focus of the other 2 games and mickey is a main character in them.

Question 2: Reaction Commands. Will they be in KH3? they played a huge part in KH2. If you didn't perform in the reaction commands in a boss fight or an important battle (the one where sora had to fight 1000 heartless) you would get screwed over...big time.

Question 3: Abilities and environment interaction. the abilities in KH3 made it super easy if you ask me, plus with the drive forms it was child's play. could they make it more choice? the abilities ties in with the environment. I have seen some amazing maps and worlds in KH3 but thats all it is, just pretty pictures. maybe they could make them..uh..(dont know the words) more touchable? like jumping off walls. nothing too fancy like Assassin's Creed but just some kind of play in for the action.


idk, question 3 seemed confusing cause i didnt know how to put my thoughts into words.

so yeah. bring this thread back to life! it got dead for a while man.

[Darksidehearts]

Ah something new I learned recently. Now I thought that the Heartless and the Nobody evolution was all based off the amount of hearts or time they receive. However it would seem that Nobodies differ from Heartless in a way I never knew they could. Apparently they can be modified or created from others of their kind. In fact the Dusk are the first step to the Nobody evolution, I feel all nobodies may have evolved from the Dusk even the Organization, unlike Heartless the nobody can revert to the Dusk form a higher evolution. Apparently the XIII Order had the ability to make the Dusk, this could just be Xemnas though but I feel it extends to all. In the first XIII Order cutscene it would appear that a member has the ability to make another member into a Dusk as Axel was threaten to become if disobeying orders.

So that tends to make me wonder how much control a user would have into the form of the Heartless or Nobody. Originally I was curious about how a Heartless could be formed, Shadows are the most common ones but how are the others created? Like Behemoth for example, was it a simple fact of the right person with the right amount of darkness within them? Or is a factor of hearts that have been collected. I tend to think that's it a combination of the heart, in it's state when being collected, in essence the darker the heart the more power the form. The same goes for the more purer hearts as well, it's a power thing. Some heartless I have noticed in games will even be able to attack one another by accident. So it is possible that the heart gained by it's ally could factor in the evolution. (I mean if your a Bleach fan you'll get this reference) If a Hollow eats another hollow and keeps eating them they eventually will become a Menos. If the ego of a Hollow in the group is far beyond the others then it will retain it's individuality and be able to continue the feeding cycle on it's fellow Menos and eventually become a Adchucas further evolutions to a Vasto Lorde. The altered evolution would be the Arrancar. Well I believe this applies the same to the Heartless and Nobody, a Nobody is like an Arrancar and can be manipulated to anyway it's needed to be provided someone stronger than the normal kind is in control. The XIII Order is able to create and summon Nobodies of a higher class because they may have been the ones to help further evolve the Dusk. The question of rather the XIII Order members all starting out as a Dusk is something I do not know nor want to state as of this moment but I do tend to feel that is plausible. There is also a case of another member that has not been seen before in the series that will be revealed in the next games, so perhaps they may be able to shed light on this. Perhaps this member may had been the defining factor in the evolution of the Nobody.

As for the Heartless I feel they follow the Hollows pattern of evolution based off time, collection of hearts and condition of the heart be it dark or pure. However I feel no matter what they all start as Shadows, I mean Sora kinda proves that actually. When guy in Traverse town that is killed when Sora gets to the plaza and becomes a Soldier Heartless, the Heartless that kills him is not shown but just a dark portal. So if I'm correct it could have either been the evolution of the Shadow becoming something stronger due to the fear in the heart or some other weaker Heartless that may have killed him but I tend to think it was a Shadow seeing as the Soldier and Shadow share similar traits. The Soldier looks like a grown up Shadow. It makes sense, the guy was afraid so the reverse making a soldier, something that's brave. Of course if the Soldier is a second stage evolution I'd count the Neo Shadow as one also seeing as it's in the land of darkness (Or fragments in KHI's case) and is not exposed to enough pure hearts and so it evolves to a darker entity. Seeing as Shadows are around in almost all worlds it only ads to the point that they are the starting block to the evolution of the Heartless otherwise they wouldn't be in the world to begin with.

[vasher]

first of all yay two new awsome looking kh games announced(i dont know about coded...... it looks suspicios)

second of all, for all the people who want less disney, even though it would be cool to see a really serious kh, that disney is wat really set kh apart. i mean who would of expected square and disney!
i mean really who!?!?
it was like a krazy new thing
without the disney it would of been another final fantasy, which would of rocked but not been kh
ya know?

[light of P]

is there a way to play KH on the psp?