Impressions on PSP Piracy

[thedeathscythe]

Originally Posted by Tanuki

The data is what we pay for. The physical UMD allows us to hold that intangible data, and that UMD itself is worth pennies. One could argue that downloading that data and using it without paying is stealing.

Gaming as proved by 01PyTypeR#1140 is NOT a cheap hobby. gamers here in Japan are the same. For those who cant dont make enough to buy every game they want, downloading is the most viable choice, which is completely understandable. Downloading does, however, have a impact on the pricing of games. If everyone bought games instead of downloading them the prices would be cheaper.

The question of downloading games without paying wont be solved any time soon. I imagine there's a Nobel in it for the person who can solve this problem and that person would probably be more likely to come up with a solution to reverse global warming or discover who killed JFK.

If I stole a blank UMD, it technically would still be stealing. by stealing a umd with a game on it, Im not simply stealing the data, but the possession of the umd. look up the definition of stealing quickly. you cant apply that definition to data, it just doesnt work. now, Im not saying downloading games is right, but you cant just label it as stealing. downloading games is technically piracy, unauthorized use of another person's work. all Im saying is, I download, yes, I love piracy, I have to for all the music and psp and dreamcast and psone games...I just do and Im not going to stop, but Im not saying its right. Im just saying that its not technically stealing, and shouldnt be treated as such. the pirate life is the life for me =D

it is my opinion that gaming, although expensive, is at its prime for prices. consoles are expensive, but that isnt a direct correlation with games, theyre completely different (some computers are 5000 bones, some are 500, games are the same price). when you consider with the atari, nes, the snes, the genesis, etc. all the classic system, and then you take into account inflation, game prices are actually very affordable. thats not saying its a cheap hobby, but thats saying that its always been expensive. but there's always been renting, trading in games, sharing games with friends, etc.

downloading games isnt necessary to make it a hobby, but it certainly does help when in this day and age, money is a requirement for fun it seems. you can say "oh go out play soccer, thats free" but you have to buy the ball, the shoes youre wearing, your clothing in general, and the taxes you pay to have that field. everything requires money, so downloading games to support a gaming hobby doesnt necessarily justify it, since stealing a soccer ball and clothing to support that hobby doesnt justify it either. but piracy ≠ stealing. thats what Im trying to get at. with games at their prices today, with money being needed for fun, yeah, I download games, but piracy ≠ stealing.

freeware solves taht problem. no ones pirating freeware games. if they are, then theyre kinda being unproductive...games for ps3, psp, 360, etc. will never be freeware but I mean, there's no way to stop piracy. humans are imperfect. humans create games and consoles. therefore, consoles and games are imperfect. theyll always find a break to it, there's no way to stop it, there really isnt.

my motto is, if you cant beat em, join em. sony gives gamesharing for ps3. I know that a 10 buck game I might not like is a little steep, but when me and my friends chip in that game becomes 2 bucks. sure, its not EXACTLY joining them, and its not exactly going to stop it, but its a good tactic. I feel willing to part with two bucks, rather than 10.

Im pretty sure lee harvey oswald was proven to be the murderer of JFK, though he was killed before too much could be known. there's debates whether or not there were more than one shooter, but it was his shot that killed him regardless, and he was more than capable of firing all shots, that originated from the same place

EDIT: adding that this isnt flaming or anything. I like to debate. I was forced onto the school debate team, and did very well till I left because I was bored. I like to apply logic and trap someone with it, make them agree with me when they really shouldnt

[ViaCard]

I miss the good old times here on Pspcrazy..

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Originally Posted by ViaCard

I miss the good old times here on Pspcrazy..

So do I, but for legal reasons, Vahid had to get rid of the downloads because Sony threatened legal action.

The number of 'PSPirates' is over exaggerated. Only a bit less than about 5% of PSP owners know how to use pirated UMDs and ISOs, let alone using them at all. Movie and music piracy has been a running front for years and years, and do you see those industries dying out? Tons and tons of music listeners download MP3s for free off P2P networks, yet albums are still selling heavily and bands are earning plenty of money.

I am in no way condoning piracy (although I am guilty of it myself) and still support the mainstream purchase of software, but I am simply pointing out an important fact.

[clipper017]

personaly i have owned a psp for 3 years now and up untill the umd drive broke on it was 100% legit and i had 24 orignal store brought games for it.

As i was allways scard of bricking it so never done any thing other then play rental or orignal games on it

BUT about 2 weeks ago my trusted psp stoped working turned out to be the umd drive. so i was left feeling pissed off and thought what the hell i would try and downgrade from 2.7 fw to the magic 1.5 becuse if i bricked it i did not matter as it was broke any way.

So i set aout reading up on how to do and found this site with a detailed guide on how to do it along with the files needed to do it. Top marks to the guy who wrote the guide as it worked and now i have my psp running 4.1 m33-2 and have since downloaded a torrent containing 185 psp games along with a ton of my fav gameboy advance games to play on it.

Now i can still play on my trusted psp and allso enjoy all the old classics i lliked on the GBA but was left with a pile of games i no longer needed so i took them down to the local games shop and tradded them in for £67 off a new PS3 which i wont mod in any wya and will buy legit games for it untill it dies

[Gandalf]

I mean piracy is piracy but to me it's only real piracy if you profit from it. The people that download the stuff and then go out and sell it, yeah that's piracy. For personal use I have no problem.

[thedeathscythe]

Originally Posted by Gandalf

I mean piracy is piracy but to me it's only real piracy if you profit from it. The people that download the stuff and then go out and sell it, yeah that's piracy. For personal use I have no problem.

yeah, I actually should add to my massive post that I dont agree with making a profit off it, thats just low. I did pay my cousin two bucks for ps2 games but thats the 2 bucks for the dvd-rs since my burner was broken and we never got a new one. its still piracy if its for personal use but I dislike it when people make a profit off of it

[Acteon]

I make a point of buying any games I download and keep - I want the system to live. Sometimes I wait for the sales, but I do buy everything. I also want to play games from my Pro Duo, and with the Sony Store, that's now possible.

I also find downloading games to sample before I import to be massively useful - after wasting £30 on My HiME, I vowed never again!

It is very much worse when piracy is used as a way to make a profit, that's grossly unfair on the developers (some of whom I know very well), but I can't say I condone it for private use either. In the case of PS1 games like Rakugaki Showtime, of which there is no other way to get the game, I suppose it's not so bad.

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Also, if I didn't download ISOs and PSX games, I would probably stop using my PSP altogether.

[killerslas]

i must admit i have never owned a umd, hell, i even took out my umd to replace it with a loud speaker because psp speakers suck.

[RedArmy93]

I find that because of piracy, developers do not want to develop of the PSP.Personally I have never pirated games, maybe it's due to me never owning a PSP yet.